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Virtual Repairman — Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:44 am

Author: Virtual Repairman

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:44 am

Bill7286 wrote:

Justed wanted to verify that I had it wired correctly since i am looking at it from the bottom with no numbers that i can see.

From the bottom? That's an odd angle, I admit...
With the range pulled out and the rear cover off, the clock should be entirely visible. The numbers embossed on it are in very tiny format and are difficult to see even for someone much younger than I who has good eyes

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:00 pm

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:00 pm

Justed wanted to verify that I had it wired correctly since i am looking at it from the bottom with no numbers that i can see.

oven

Virtual Repairman — Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:05 pm

Author: Virtual Repairman

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:05 pm

Bill, YOU have the only wiring diagram in your possession, or at least you said you did earlier. The terminals are the same for both types of clock, only the face of the clock is changed from digital to analog. Use your diagram to verify the clock terminals are wired per the diagram.

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:59 pm

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:59 pm

By any chance do you have the wire hookup for the GE WB19x5246 timer?

oven

Virtual Repairman — Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:31 pm

Author: Virtual Repairman

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:31 pm

It takes 3 and 1/2 hours on Self clean to reach temps. You have not run it near that long, so you can't be sure. What is for sure is that you have a clock problem and possibly the thermostat is also failing. As you mentioned, this is an older unit, so you may need to do without the self clean feature unless you want to invest some serious money on parts (or a new stove). Took us long enough to figure this out, but it is what it is.

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:26 pm

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:26 pm

The bake unit does not heat up at all in time bake, but both the bake and broil units get hot on clean. So the clean is getting power but does not get as hot as it should.

oven

Virtual Repairman — Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:58 pm

Author: Virtual Repairman

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:58 pm

The problem is the way your clock is wired. Despite how the diagram is structured, you are not getting power when using Timed Bake nor Self clean. This will turn out to be a wiring issue revolved around the clock terminals. Note which contacts are closed for Timed Bake on your schematic and place thoe wires on the same terminal. Your self clean should work, albeit the clock will no longer stop the cycle by itself.

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:00 pm

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:00 pm

After going through two digital timers I went back to the analog timer.

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:49 pm

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:49 pm

OK on my analog timer, I have the wires on the following terminals- #1-2 red wires, #2-1 orange wire, #3-2 blue wires and #4-2 black wires. There are 3 white wires on the common terminal. This is following my schematic diagram.

clock

Virtual Repairman — Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:27 pm

Author: Virtual Repairman

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:27 pm

Ok, I think I may have the solution to your problem...you replaced the clock with a digital version, one that I am familiar with. On the back of the clock are 4 wires if I recall, white, black and 2 red wires. The red wires are separated by the timed bake contacts, which incidentally control the Self-clean as well. If you were to turn off the power to the oven and place the 2 red wires on the same terminal, my best guess is that the self-clean and the timed bake will now light up. See if I am right.

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:12 pm

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:12 pm

No it doesn't. Forgot about that one. Have never used that position.

range question

Virtual Repairman — Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:48 pm

Author: Virtual Repairman

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:48 pm

One other question about the oven...does the "Timed Bake" feature work?

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:10 pm

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:10 pm

I don't have a scanner, but will check around for somebody that does. Thanks

diagram

Virtual Repairman — Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:27 am

Author: Virtual Repairman

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:27 am

Scan the diagram and email it to support@repair2000.com and I will see what I can do. I will probably require a donation from you since you are asking me to devote more time than necessary to help you on this, and I am not a big proponent of buying used parts. My main income is from people buying parts thru my parts links, so if you are going to go the other route, that sorta screws my program up a bit. Free is nice, but I do draw the line at spending rigorous time learned from 37 years of working on appliances like yours without something in return.

Re: Older GE range clean cycle does not work

Bill7286 — Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:18 am

Author: Bill7286

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:18 am

I checked the owners manual and there is nothing about P7. What does P7 mean? I do have a wiring diagram, in fact I have all the paperwork that came with the range. If you can guide me through the wiring diagram as to what to look for, this would be good. Do you think it is the oven switch. I can get one used at a reasonable cost. The Dual Range Thermostat is expensive used i.e 100.00. The timer does work (clock works) man i have confidence in said he was sure clock is ok. Latch switch I checked with test light. For some odd reason P7 rings a bell, but can't remember for sure. 30 years is a long time. Thats how long we have had the range. Bought new in 1980. The original timer went out a few years ago and could not find another, so had to get the replacement digital. Went through two of those because they just would not hold up on the clean cycle. (would fry boards). We only clean when oven gets really dirty. I finally found a analog from a man who rebuilds stove clocks. Let me know if your looking for a good man who rebuilds clocks, and I will give you the info to get in touch with him. There is some history. Thanks for taking the time to help me.