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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

Older GE range"s clean cycle does not work. Have checked wiring to timer and checked latch switch and they are both ok. Clean light and oven temp light not turned on. Bake and Broil functions work. Want to know what else I need to check. Thanks

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: oven

The first thing you need is to provide a model number if I am to help you, thanks.
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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

GE JSP27.

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:48 am Post subject: oven

Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

The oven light does work on bake and broil. Does not work on clean also the clean light does not work on self clean.

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:44 am Post subject: oven

Since I can't see your model (hence, no diagram) does it have knobs or is this a digital clock that sets the clean cycle?
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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

This is the older analog clock and it does have knobs.

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: oven

OK, does the front of the control panel also say "P7 Oven Cleaning" somewhere on it?
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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

No. All the paint on the front control panel is gone. Down to bare aluminum. Can barely make out the GE logo on right side.

Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

Would this be in the owners manual?

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:52 am Post subject: oven

I can't see the Owner's manual either, so I can't answer that. If you still have it, perhaps there's a picture of the control panel in there or a description of the self-clean cycle. There is usually a wiring diagram on back of these units or possibly under the lower drawer if it has one. The wiring sheet will help you tremendously to trace a circuit. Your model does not show up on any parts lookup that I can find, so you will have to relay on whatever info you have on hand.
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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

I checked the owners manual and there is nothing about P7. What does P7 mean? I do have a wiring diagram, in fact I have all the paperwork that came with the range. If you can guide me through the wiring diagram as to what to look for, this would be good. Do you think it is the oven switch. I can get one used at a reasonable cost. The Dual Range Thermostat is expensive used i.e 100.00. The timer does work (clock works) man i have confidence in said he was sure clock is ok. Latch switch I checked with test light. For some odd reason P7 rings a bell, but can't remember for sure. 30 years is a long time. Thats how long we have had the range. Bought new in 1980. The original timer went out a few years ago and could not find another, so had to get the replacement digital. Went through two of those because they just would not hold up on the clean cycle. (would fry boards). We only clean when oven gets really dirty. I finally found a analog from a man who rebuilds stove clocks. Let me know if your looking for a good man who rebuilds clocks, and I will give you the info to get in touch with him. There is some history. Thanks for taking the time to help me.

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:27 am Post subject: diagram

Scan the diagram and email it to [email protected] and I will see what I can do. I will probably require a donation from you since you are asking me to devote more time than necessary to help you on this, and I am not a big proponent of buying used parts. My main income is from people buying parts thru my parts links, so if you are going to go the other route, that sorta screws my program up a bit. Free is nice, but I do draw the line at spending rigorous time learned from 37 years of working on appliances like yours without something in return.
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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

I don't have a scanner, but will check around for somebody that does. Thanks

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: range question

One other question about the oven...does the "Timed Bake" feature work?
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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

No it doesn't. Forgot about that one. Have never used that position.

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject: clock

Ok, I think I may have the solution to your problem...you replaced the clock with a digital version, one that I am familiar with. On the back of the clock are 4 wires if I recall, white, black and 2 red wires. The red wires are separated by the timed bake contacts, which incidentally control the Self-clean as well. If you were to turn off the power to the oven and place the 2 red wires on the same terminal, my best guess is that the self-clean and the timed bake will now light up. See if I am right.
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Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

OK on my analog timer, I have the wires on the following terminals- #1-2 red wires, #2-1 orange wire, #3-2 blue wires and #4-2 black wires. There are 3 white wires on the common terminal. This is following my schematic diagram.

Bill7286 · Apprentice DIYer Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 14

After going through two digital timers I went back to the analog timer.

Virtual Repairman · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: oven

The problem is the way your clock is wired. Despite how the diagram is structured, you are not getting power when using Timed Bake nor Self clean. This will turn out to be a wiring issue revolved around the clock terminals. Note which contacts are closed for Timed Bake on your schematic and place thoe wires on the same terminal. Your self clean should work, albeit the clock will no longer stop the cycle by itself.
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